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  • Rod King
    commented 2023-09-25 09:00:24 +0100
    Hi Donald

    A caravan on the Llyn peninsula is an excellent choice. I have one myself and drove down there last weekend. I am not sure where you drove from. I live in the NorthWest of England and it usually takes 2.5 hrs to get there. For me I can travel from Warrington where there is a 20mph limit on most roads and then after crossing the border its 81 miles before I reach the first 20mph limit in Y Ffor which is a couple of hundred metres long, followed by a 20mph limit in Pwllheli. And we both know that you are lucky to get above 10mph in Pwllheli most of the time.

    Local authorities have not “opted out” towns/villages, but can set 30mph as an exception on parts of the community which had a 30mph limit but no houses, etc and where they can justify a higher limit than 20mph. Its why you will mainly find 30mph retained at the edge of a town/village with 20mph as the norm inside. Of course with the national limit changing on one day, local authorities could not instantly change the signs so there were some unavoidable anomalies in signage. I think these will be resolved fairly quickly.

    For me, the big advantage is that my grandchildren now have a 20mph route to the beach and a far more pleasant environment to be on holiday in. Experience from 20mph limits in England is that people do get used to it and what may have been a shock and initially confusing does become accepted. I think it will be great for tourism. If you are one of the 20 million people in England with a 20mph limit on your street (or one of the millions from continental Europe with a 30km/h limit) then who would want to walk to the beach or around a resort on roads where speeds 50% higher are endorsed.

    With regard to a 25mph limit, this is not so beneficial for casualties and is not allowed by the UK Government. UK-wide regulations only allow speed limits in 10mph increments.

    I am sure that in time you will see the benefits and get as used to 20mph as you are with 30mph so that you can keep enjoying the Llyn.
  • Donald Davies
    commented 2023-09-23 22:19:25 +0100
    In Wales first time since 20 mph introduced. Driving from Welsh border to our caravan in Lleyn peninsula was a nightmare, as follows. Whilst I agree with the premise of this campaign, implementation has been appalling. Welsh website says some local towns/villages have opted to retain 30 mph but default HAS to be assumed to be 20 mph. How is the motorist supposed to know? Some 20mph signs in evidence but still mostly 30 mph. Welsh police are famous for camera catches, we have been clocked in Wales for 32 mph, but never in England. Police say there will be an educational period of introduction but after you can guarantee cameras will clock at 22 mph. And fines, course and points will ensue making more money for the Treasury. Journey was very stressful took an hour longer. Wales relies on tourism, and will definitely take a big hit unless implementation different. Also why not make limit 25 not 20, much more doeable, no mention of in campaign information I can see.
  • Adrian Berendt
    published this page 2021-03-16 12:13:03 +0000